[Apcupsd-users] does apcupsd work with CyberPower SX550G?

[Mark Foley]

I've recently bought the CyberPower SX550G battery backup. Today I installed
apcupsd 3.14.14. It is not communicating with the CyberPower. I have status
COMMLOST. I have it configured for USB.

I've used apcupsd for at least 5 cyberPower UPSes in the past and had not
problem.

Has anyone used this model, or does anyone know whether apcupsd works with this
model of CyberPower?

Thanks --Mark

[Phil Stracchino]

Post by Mark Foley
I've recently bought the CyberPower SX550G battery backup. Today I installed
apcupsd 3.14.14. It is not communicating with the CyberPower. I have status
COMMLOST. I have it configured for USB.
I've used apcupsd for at least 5 cyberPower UPSes in the past and had not
problem.
Has anyone used this model, or does anyone know whether apcupsd works with this
model of CyberPower?

I'm given to understand the HP UPS I briefly had some years ago was a
rebadged CyberPower unit. apcupsd did NOT work reliably with it, but
NUT did.

[David C. Rankin]

Post by Phil Stracchino
I'm given to understand the HP UPS I briefly had some years ago was a
rebadged CyberPower unit. apcupsd did NOT work reliably with it, but
NUT did.

Yes NUT (network ups tools) will work well with cyberpower via the usbhid
module. Config files are generally installed to /etc/ups and *read* the setup
and the comments in the config files carefully.

[Mark Foley]

Post by David C. Rankin

Post by Phil Stracchino
I'm given to understand the HP UPS I briefly had some years ago was a
rebadged CyberPower unit. apcupsd did NOT work reliably with it, but
NUT did.

Yes NUT (network ups tools) will work well with cyberpower via the usbhid
module. Config files are generally installed to /etc/ups and *read* the setup
and the comments in the config files carefully.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

Well, for the time being, I prefer apcupsd for several reasons. For one thing,
I know it, no learning. I'm sure NUT is learnable, and I'll definintely check
it out later. For example, I use apcupsd on a Linux host and use the Windows
version as a client to that Linux host. Does NUT support this? I'd have to
research that.

I can configure apccontrol to use alternate shutdown programs and send email
notifications to various parties. Perhaps NUT can do that too, but ... more
research.

I have a CyberPower 625VA I bought a couple of years ago and this newer 550VA.
The 625 works with apcupsd, no problem. The 550 came with a CyberPower
monitoring program -- for Windows only, and apcupsd does not work with it.
Apparently CyberPower made the business decision to stop using the APC message
protocol/format for communication with the host. Personally, I think that's a
bad decision; it limits their market. I for one have replaced the CyberPower
550 and installed an APC unit to solve my immediately problem without new
software installation. I'll certainly not be buying CyberPower units in the
future -- unless I get ambitious enough to experiment with NUT.

--Mark

[David C. Rankin]

Post by Mark Foley
Well, for the time being, I prefer apcupsd for several reasons.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to push you to NUT, I like apcupsd too, but
I have found that on some CP UPSs that utilize the usbhid driver, nut seems to
be what works. I haven't researched in depth why, or what, may give apcupsd
trouble with some of the CP models, but in many instances it is simply how the
UPS talks over USB (meaning in a non-standard way)

The following are two CP models are two I have used with NUT:

CP1000AVRLCD
CP1350PFCLCD

If you run into issue with apcupsd talking to these, then it is worth giving
NUT a try. Some of the CP models require model specific handling by usbhid.

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

Post by Mark Foley
Apparently CyberPower made the business decision to stop using the APC message
protocol/format for communication with the host. Personally, I think that's a
bad decision; it limits their market. I for one have replaced the CyberPower
550 and installed an APC unit to solve my immediately problem without new
software installation. I'll certainly not be buying CyberPower units in the
future

GOOD!!!

Post by Mark Foley
-- unless I get ambitious enough to experiment with NUT.

Cyberpower has been in business long enough to know what the apcupsd
project is. They know where to find it and who to send devices and
money to if they want to join the party.

Eaton does this with NUT (and not with apcupsd) which is a large reason
(IMHO) why NUT never ported the newer APC driver code to their project.

I do not think it is a bad thing for OSS to flex it's muscles every once
in a while. We get completely saturated with all the CRAP marketing
from Microsoft that implies that the world is all running Windows
servers when in reality the opposite is true. If Cyberpower wants
to believe the Kool-Aid then let 'em. Schneider and Eaton are smart
enough to come in out of the rain and actually read the market research
reports that show the reality instead of the Microsoft marketing lies.
It does not help OSS at all to support product vendors that do not value
it.

Ted

[Mark Foley]

Andrej, I have 3 apparently older CyberPower units that work with apcupsd on
Linux. The one I bought recently does not.

--Mark

Mark,
CyberPower is a different manufacturer altogether.APC UPSes are made by Schneider Electric.
Pretty sure apcupsd supports only those.
Andrej
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:19 PM
Subject: [Apcupsd-users] does apcupsd work with CyberPower SX550G?
I've recently bought the CyberPower SX550G battery backup. Today I installed
apcupsd 3.14.14. It is not communicating with the CyberPower. I have status
COMMLOST. I have it configured for USB.
I've used apcupsd for at least 5 cyberPower UPSes in the past and had not
problem.
Has anyone used this model, or does anyone know whether apcupsd works with this
model of CyberPower?
Thanks --Mark

[G2]

i have a VMware ESXi 6.0.0 machine running with the VMs on a Synology NAS.


apcupsd is running on a raspberryPi3 with 3 APC 1500 UPSs on a home LAN network. two NAS's, one ESXi server and a Win2008 server, and a few routers and such are connected to battery backup on these 3 UPSs.


from this setup can apcupsd signal the ESXi machine over the local lan to start VM shutdown's or do i have to have a UPS comm connected directly to the ESXi machine to somehow do this? not clear to me how to do this.

i'm wanting to have one central UPS hub, the apcupsd raspberryPi, so to speak.

tia